where the roof leaks, and you constantly have to replace or repair things getting ripped off or busted up, how many people would even consider their state before the Lord? Change is difficult, especially attitude change. Maybe that's why the Lord warns us throughout Scripture...ya know, to motivate us to get over our pompous selves? And as for hell not being in the Old Testament, even unedjamakated me knows, that horrible place was referred to as the "pit." And by the way, hell is used several times in the Old Testament - in the non-watered down Bible, that is. Yeah, there is a difference; a plant will grow okay in a plastic pot, but will grow better in a genuine clay one (and they're not available just any old where).
Anyway, as for (covertly) scowling down people for fearing the Lord, uhm, go have a coffee with King David. Wanna run yer social-darwinistic I'm-ssso-educated flim-flam, try that one on King David. Ya know, rat #1, while we're like somewhere in the 700 to 800-ish rank. Oh, and by the way, even i have enough brains to know that in order to keep a nation strong, the ruler has to use his noggin. Sure, he had advisors - yeah, advisors are like accountants...there's good ones, and there's...well good luck when the IRS pays a call.
Break's over.
Sue your ramblings are so disjointed I think perhaps you are a victim of substance abuse? Sadly you are kidding yourself about your Lord saving you because it sounds like you are already in hell.....your exhaustion, dissatisfaction with your life and unhappiness are so evident in your posts. ...Let me know when King David is ready for a coffee because I will gladly have one with him. By the way who is 'the ruler' ?
ReplyDeleteSuzie, you come off very strongly as someone who spouts off damaging nonsense...heaven help your co-workers. Buh-bye.
ReplyDeleteSue thankfully I am self employed so I save any co-workers from hearing me spout !!... Sue you on the other hand clearly have no answers when pushed on your beliefs...I have poked the bear and understand you aren't comfortable with that..but if you genuinely believe the worlds biggest selling novel then turn to the pages on love for your fellow man, forgiveness and empathy. You believe in the God of creation and the King of Peace so perhaps spout a few of those verses. If your religion helps you and makes you a better person then more power to you. But you only speak of fear, fire and brimstone, hell, hate, fornicators, athiests, gay people and I am sure coloured, muslims, jews etc all fall into your category of people you detest. America is a haven for the demographic of people born into a poor family with a disappointing mother and probably an absent father, raised in a trailer park exposed to domestic violence and substance abuse, lack of health and dental care, insufficient education, unable to obtain permanent well paid employment, believe in every persons right to bare firearms and end up Trump voters. I am not saying this is true of you, but it is how you sound. You will be pleased to know that I have had my last say on your blog as I really understand we are so far apart in our beliefs and our life experiences that we have no middle ground. I truly hope you find whatever it is that makes you happy, I sincerley acknowledge your pain at the loss of your husband and know what a hole this has left in your heart. Try to find peace and some joy in each day, that is my wish for you. Take care :-)
ReplyDeleteLife on this earth is hard.
ReplyDeleteI have a friend [girlfriend of another close friend] who was a Buddhist, spent 4 years in a nursing home bed. Locked in syndrome. So you think it is justice after her suffering, she is supposed to go roast on a spit for the Lord.
I realized that even my own loved husband was supposed to "go to hell" according to the rules, and I knew if I died and went to heaven and he was in hell, it would be "When Dreams May Come" time and I would go and get him out of hell. Of course according to the bible, I was supposed to be blissfully happy in heaven, while my husband roasted and that disturbed me beyond belief. I knew then my husband was a far kinder man then the God I was supposed to worship.
I have lived my life in adult poverty [American standard] and at least the last years, there has been some stability with food and housing though that may not be lasting long and 30 years of chronic pain and disabilities. There's days I can't even breathe right even with meds dependent on what the weather is doing and I am supposed to die, and then have this monster light a match, because I "fell away" or I went on intellectual inquiry into other religions.
I looked myself in a mirror one day to deconvert and knew this religion was of oppression. It was not teaching love of other people or compassion for people in other religions or gay people etc etc.....I knew I had to leave and go where the love was and compassion and that was not conservative right wing, fundamentalist IFB Christianity. I am no longer a Christian of course now. There are Christians who are liberal and go for love and believe in Jesus who preaches liberation and is against oppression, I see them now as allies despite my different beliefs.
I lost several friends to death, all but ONE were not Christians, and supposedly God was going to roast them all in hell [I had preached the gospel to all as a fundie, maybe I did them no favors there....you know]
and I no longer could accept a cruel God that wanted to send them to hell.
Hell is evil and invention of a celestial sociopath. I cannot worship cruel deities that bring more pain, suffering, fear, and worry to humanity. I feel for you Sue too. Suzie is right that your religion is bringing you pain, and torture. I was there as a fundie, feeling the same thing. I questioned and left, and well, at least now I don't have to live life thinking most people are going to burn in this monster's hell.
Dear Peeps, wanna talk about misery, yuk...looking back prior to Spring 2010 (don't remember the exact day) but i don't want to go back to the world. By the way, if people had the power to put other people into eternal hell, it would be on a whim. A narc could b.s. his way out of getting sent there by a bigger narc, while some narc's kid would roast forever, for no better reason than neglecting to set out the trash. That's the thing about people, we're moody and we play favorites. But with people, being a favorite can go on for years, then suddenly, for no reason - okay, the favorite knocked over a lamp and it broke - well, to eternal hell with him or her.
ReplyDeleteThink about it Sue, hell is a man-made invention added to religion to make us afraid and control us. It's what gets people to submit. How much worse is the world. I was miserable and experienced trauma that made me think Christianity was a lifesaver, it wasn't. This is a very hard world, why don't we have a God that actually helps us out instead of always threatening punishments and eternal fire. No we have to realize no god is intervening and help each other out and also question Gods or ideas of Gods that want to burn people for eternity, it's wrong. Yes humans would abuse hell, but look at us, would we send 95% of human there? Guess what I would send no one there, not even my arch enemies or Hitler etc. If I was God I would devise a way to protect regular people of conscience from those who have none or seek to harm others, hmm like humans do today in at least decent modern nations, they don't light a match to them. This means I and other humans who would not burn anyone for eternity are "kinder" then the Christian God, this is why I cannot worship it. With playing favorites, doesn't the Christian God play favorites, "Esau have I hated"--remember that verse? The Calvinists literally believe he sends people to hell and knows it from the start. I see these Christian ladies with perfect lives, he definitely helped them "keep the faith" so to speak and in his good graces. LOL There's no evidence that God is fair to humans in fact most is contrary where some are blessed incredibly and some born to misery like starving in a third world country with no clean water.
DeleteDear Peeps, God's ways higher than our ways? Sounds like, what we think we know, we don't.
ReplyDeleteI know burning people for eternity is psychotic, and my conscience screams out against it. The Christian god is a human invention. A truly enlightened being would not desire revenge and suffering for "enemies".
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